Donald Trump Continues to Question Legitimacy of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate

by Staff on April 12, 2011

What will Trump's private investigators find in Honolulu?

Is Donald Trump looking for the truth?  Or publicity and a presidential nomination?

Lately, it certainly seems to be much more of the latter.

Since taking up the “birther” issue, support for Trump has doubled and his “Celebrity Apprentice” show has experienced a notable increase in ratings.  Though he claims that he doesn’t “like to talk about this issue”, Trump has shamelessly questioned the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in interviews with several media outlets, including “The View”, CNN, and MSNBC.  And he now maintains he has sent private investigators to Hawaii to get to the bottom of the issue of Obama’s birthplace.

Expensive investigators or otherwise, they are not likely to find any new news.  Trump may be wealthy, but he has been neither swift nor original in his attacks on Obama.  Long before Trump took up the birther banner, plenty of Obama opponents had already taken it upon themselves to investigate Obama’s origins. Some even went as far as to request to “inspect and copy” the President’s birth certificate (a request prohibited by Hawaii privacy laws, and thus denied by Hawaii courts).

Yet Trump continues to add fuel to the conspiracy theory fire, declaring, “I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding”. (Source) It is hard to believe “what they’re finding”…when Trump fails to say exactly what “it” is!

Here is what his investigators have likely found:

- Obama’s birth announcement was made in two newspapers in 1961, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.  No need to hire private investigators – anybody can view these records in the state library.

- Obama’s mother was issued a “certificate of live birth” from Kapiolani Medical Center.  No need to fly to Hawaii to see it – it’s been available online since 2008.

Trump asked in an interview with CNN, “Why doesn’t he (Obama) show his birth certificate?”

Try to keep up, Trump.  Obama has shown his birth certificate, to the extent that he can within the current laws.  The “certificate of live birth” has been made publicly available.  In addition, state officials gave a statement declaring that they have seen and verified the President’s original birth certificate, and reiterated that fact that state law prohibits the release of any certified birth certificate.  A spokesman for the Hawaii Attorney General’s Office reaffirmed this point, stating, “It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody”. (Source)

So what is “The Donald” still searching for?  His recent irrational behavior might suggest a distraction, an ego boost, attention, and a nomination.

Because if it is truth he is looking for, he need not look any further.  The birth announcements, certificate of live birth, and long form birth certificate all confirm that President Barack Obama was born in the US.

Perhaps it’s time we turn the tables and start investigating Mr. Trump, the possible presidential candidate-to-be, starting first with his alleged Gaddafi Charity.

{ 6 comments… read them below or add one }

Max Le Compte April 13, 2011 at 3:52 am

You and the AG are mistaken one one point. The long form can be released to the registrant on request. See Hawaii Revised Statute 338-13.

It’s astonishing what a lousy job the press has done explaining this case to the public. Don’t blame the Birthers. The news media’s laziness is what has blown this non-issue up into a major controversy. You could have double-checked the AG’s conclusion. But it vwas easier, cheaper and faster to just take him at his word, wasn’t it?

It took me four minutes to find the statute that flatly contradicts what he said..

What is the point of your profession, anyway?

Staff April 13, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Thanks for your thoughts, Max. The point is to invite conversation about issues relevant to Hawaii, so we do appreciate you taking part and we welcome a diversity of perspectives and discussion. You are correct in that, with regard to Statute 338-13, Obama can request a certified copy of the certificate. As for the Attorney General’s conclusion, it is true that the long form cannot be released to just anybody. The law states that it “prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record”. As such, Obama and perhaps his immediate family members are the only ones who can legally request the certified copy. And even then, it will be a copy. Both Obama and FactCheck.org have already scanned and shared his short form birth certificate, so what good would requesting a long form copy do? Will this satisfy Birthers? Surely, they will still question its legitimacy, as it will be a copy.

Allan Gabriel April 14, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Max: It’s even easier to post a faceless response to an article and question the integrity and work of the writer who posted what I think is a very well written (and objective) piece on a controversial subject that should be investigated. All issues regarding our government should be scrutinized across party lines. I have a feeling that you’re words and thoughts would be vastly different if it were George Bush’s name in this article as opposed to Obama. I’m sure your opinion came from whatever liberal news source you stick to, and you choose to shoot it off any chance you see/read anything that might bring that biased opinion to question. Honestly I’m tired of all conservatives and democrats who LAZILY blog or respond on the internet with demeaning and hateful chatter just because they’re too insecure to question their regurgitated opinion.

Don O'Reilly April 14, 2011 at 7:54 pm

Trump’s “investigators” will find nothing new. These birther clowns are just plain simpletons who attempt to distract us from the real issues, many of which were created or neglected by the Bush administration.

Argus April 23, 2011 at 7:46 am

My first visit to your “journal” and the following seems to represent an attempt (albeit somewhat tepid) at some rather refreshing journalistic candor given the “head-in-the-sand” approach most media have taken with this issue…

“You are correct in that, with regard to Statute 338-13, Obama can request a certified copy of the certificate…As such, Obama and perhaps his immediate family members are the only ones who can legally request the certified copy. And even then, it will be a copy.”

But why do you, at this point, start to pull your journalistic punches?…

“As for the Attorney General’s conclusion, it is true that the long form cannot be released to just anybody…”

Duh? I mean really. Duh? That statement from the Att’y General spokesperson is about as deceptive and obfuscatory an observation as one could muster in a transparent attempt to tip-toe around the real issue. Here it is, again, as reported this time by Michael Isikoff, “investigative national correspondent” for NBC News…and you better “parse” these words, big time…

“But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of ‘vital records,’ including an original ‘record of live birth’ — even to the individual whose birth it records.”

OF COURSE you can’t release the ACTUAL vital record itself to ANYONE. But what about a “photocopy” of that record?

Isikoff continues…and documents Wisch’s inept attempt to pre-empt the begged question (well, to a REAL journalist anyway)…

‘It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,’ he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said.”

What absolute balderdash!…and clearly debunked by the unambigious provisions of Hawaii Statute §338-13, Certified copies…

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol06_ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm

As to your…

“…so what good would requesting a long form copy do?”

“Truth, fairness and accuracy” are your stated guidelines, you shouldn’t have to ponder that question.

Staff May 9, 2011 at 8:24 am

Hi Argus,

Mahalo for joining the conversation. As I am sure you are now aware, Obama has requested and released the copy of the long form birth certificate. The reason we asked “what good would requesting a long form copy do?” was because we (correctly) anticipated that even if Obama did this, there would be people who continued to claim it was a fake, as they did with the short form certificate. Hopefully the issue can be put to rest now that the long form has been released, but I suspect there will always be conspiracy theorists and those who doubt the president’s place of birth.

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